Fighting tickets from red-light cameras

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Updated: 1/11 6:48 pm
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Red-light cameras: they're an eye in the sky making sure you follow the rules of the road. And starting Monday, they'll be installed at 17 intersections in Jacksonville. Run a red light and you'll get a ticket in the mail for $158.

"That is our goal.  We want to reduce traffic crashes," said Sheriff John Rutherford.

But in other cities around the state, drivers are fighting the tickets and winning.  From July 2011 to June 2012, 20,000 Floridians challenged their ticket and 70 percent of them had their cases dismissed.

That begs the question: are the cameras really worth it? "It's certainly going to generate the revenue necessary to make it a cost-positive thing," said local attorney Randy Reep.

He says yes, the cameras will still turn a profit for the city. But he also says the tickets are easy to fight, because of unreliable cameras, no human witnesses, and the sheer volume of cases judges see.

And if you feel like you've been wrongly fined, he says you should call an attorney.  "There are attorneys out there. My firm does it, others do it, who will make sure that you've exhausted every possible defense," said Reep.

But Sheriff Rutherford says the system Jacksonville will be using won't be so easy to fight. First of all, he says only a sworn police officer will review the video and issue a ticket. And drivers will be able to see their violations online.

The sheriff said, "Particularly when violators can go online and see themselves running the light six seconds before and six seconds after, that's pretty powerful stuff. So, no I don't think we'll have any problems."

If you're willing to fight the ticket, it may be worth it. Attorney fees for a case like this are generally a little cheaper than $158.

Even though thousands of cases are thrown out, there's no denying the cameras are effective safety tools. New numbers show a 56-percent reduction in crashes at intersections where the cameras have been installed.
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Patriot58 - 1/30/2013 7:40 PM
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Date/location: July 4, 2011: Opa-Locka FL Source: WSVN-TV news story Headline: Help Me Howard: Funeral Ticketed Synopsis: Several vehicles in police-escorted funeral procession were camera ticketed after camera company and police review. Funeral processions re exempt from red light violations under Florida law and police officers were visible in the video stopping traffic for the funeral procession. “it seems clear that no one even watched the tapes before the violations were sent out.” ATS camera system, who denied an appeal to dismiss. Media involvement required to dismiss the tickets.

Patriot58 - 1/30/2013 7:39 PM
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Date/location: February 10, 2011: Baltimore, MD Source: WBAL-TV video story Headline: Dead Officer's Signature On Red Light Citations Synopsis: About 2,000 camera tickets were shown as being reviewed by a police officer that died months earlier. The city claims it was an error and a live officer reviewed them according to internal records.

Patriot58 - 1/30/2013 7:37 PM
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1) Date/location: September 23, 2011: Austin, Texas - Source: The Newspaper dot com story - Headline: Red Light Camera Tickets a Man Running a Green Light.... Synopsis: On September 12, Port Lavaca Police Sergeant Kelly Flood signed a ticket accusing Dale Price of running a red light and demanding he pay $75 by October 12, but the light was green. On September 6 at 12:04pm, Price drove his grey 2009 GMC pickup through the intersection of US 35 and Travis Street. He was making a left-hand turn, with turn signal active, at 17 MPH. According to the red light camera, the light had been red for more than a minute. According to the photographs and the video evidence, the light remained green throughout his turn.

Patriot58 - 1/30/2013 7:34 PM
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It means nothing that the video is suppose to be reviewed by a sworn police officer according to the sheriff. Believe what you will. The Supreme Court has ruled that police can lie to suspects, I meant citizens. The landmark decision regulating false statements made to a suspect is the U.S. Supreme Court case of Frazier v. Cupp, 394 U.S. 731, 1969

Gunny48 - 1/12/2013 10:07 AM
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Ban "assault intersections" - any intersection that can carry more than 10 cars...

HenryHeigh - 1/12/2013 3:53 AM
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I'm in California and it is amazing to watch Floridians make the same mistake we made ten or twelve years ago - putting in red light cameras. You should know better. The videos the Industry puts on TV make it clear to any observer that nearly of the crashes occur after the signal has been red for 5 or more seconds. It should be easy to figure out that that real late running occurs because the motorist (a visitor or distracted/impaired local) completely misses seeing the signal, because it isn't prominent enough. A camera won't make a signal more prominent. But here's how to do it, cheaply and quickly. A. Paint "signal ahead" on the pavement. A study sponsored by your own (FL) DOT found that doing so could cut running by up to 74%. B. Make the signal lights bigger in diameter or, add another signal head. A study by the Texas Transp. Institute (TTI) found that doing either one could cut crashes by 47%. C. Add backboards to the signal heads. The TTI study found that doing so could cut crashes by 32%. D. For nighttime driving, install brighter bulbs in the street lights and put up lighted name signs for the cross street. These things should be tried at a city's ten worst intersections before there is any consideration of putting in red light cameras.
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