Red light cameras coming to Jacksonville

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Updated: 6/04/2012 7:04 pm
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Attention drivers: Jacksonville is one step closer to getting red light cameras.  They're the cameras that take a picture of your license plate, and send you a ticket in the mail if you run a red light.

According to the Traffic Safety Coalition, nearly 700 people were killed in red light running crashes in 2009.  Now, in an effort to reduce that danger here in Jacksonville, Sheriff John Rutherford is pushing for red light cameras to be installed in Duval County.

He's working out a deal with a Phoenix-based company called, Redflex.  It specializes in video surveillance at intersections.  And it takes it a step further, by actually helping prevent crashes. 

New technology, called Halo, can measure the probability of a car running a red light.  And so other drivers don't get hit, it holds their light at red, until the law breaker passes.

"It delays their red and thereby protecting them from jumping out and getting hit by a red light runner," said Sheriff Rutherford.

Green Cove Springs has been using red light cameras for a while now.  But the idea of an eye in the sky watching you drive has some drivers seeing red.

Action News asked, "When you listen to drivers, they say, no, this is just a money generator for the city."  Sheriff Rutherford replied, "No, and that's never been our mission. Look, we're about public safety."  He went on to say, "This should be evidence that this ain't about the money, is we're gonna put up big signs to let everybody know, look, you're getting ready to enter an intersection that's video red light enforced."

The Sheriff says about 25 different approaches will get cameras. The most dangerous ones will use the HALO system. The exact locations haven't been named yet.

So now, the next logical question is, how much will this cost you, the taxpayer? 

Sheriff Rutherford answered, "These systems will not cost the taxpayers any money whatsoever."

The Sheriff says the system pays for itself with ticket revenue.  Tickets are about $158 a pop.  And offenders will get warnings during the first 30 days the system is used.

Sheriff Rutherford says the contract is now in the hands of the City's General Counsel. As soon as that's hammered out, he says installation could begin within 90 days.

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notofthisearth - 8/29/2012 9:22 AM
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Here we go again, our fine "stewards" of our tax dollars trying to fill holes in their budgets with unicorn pi$$. $4000.00 dollars per camera per month (as of the Arizona companies last published estimate) which will amount to 30 - 42,000 per month per intersection based on that estimate. Lets say an average of 40,000 because you know its going to ultimately cost more anyway, it always does. So 12 intersections x 40,000.00 = $480,000.00 per month, yes per month, or $5,760,000.00 per year. Now the city claims it will fill a $1.5 million dollar hole in the budget for the year, really. I'm no rocket scientist but seems like the city council needs to get off the pipe. This is what is going to happen, people will stop cause they will soon know the cameras are there,, and you'll end up with higher insurance premiums cause you and the car in front of you forgot they where there while you where getting that life altering text message out about your BFF and "bamm" you just wrecked your wallet. The city will not generate the revenue, which they are "projecting" will fill that teenie weenie little budget hole of $1.5 million, we'll be stuck with the tab to pay the company for the cameras, again close to $6,000,000.00 and we will still have a 1.5 million hole which will actually be much higher by the end of the year as since the hole was based on "mystery revenue" . The only "holes" I see in this are the ones in then heads of those who belive that this is a good idea. Hey, I got a novel idea, why dont the police actually write a ticket once in awhile, I often think you need a big sign on your car that says "Hey, Im doin 80 in a 45 zone, give me a ticket".. You can't buy a traffic ticket in this town anymore, its like Daytona speedway. I'm sick and tired of hearing about, cutting police and praying on peoples fear when it comes to the police budget. they have an unlimited revenue stream out here, work for it, thats what we pay you for. Seriously

notofthisearth - 8/29/2012 9:08 AM
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Here we go again, our fine "stewards" of our tax dollars trying to fill holes in their budgets with unicorn pi$$. $4000.00 dollars per camera per month (as of the Arizona companies last published estimate) which will amount to 30 - 42,000 per month per intersection based on that estimate. Lets say an average of 40,000 because you know its going to ultimately cost more anyway, it always does. So 12 intersections x 40,000.00 = $480,000.00 per month, yes per month, or $5,760,000.00 per year. Now the city claims it will fill a $1.5 million dollar hole in the budget for the year, really. I'm no rocket scientist but seems like the city council needs to get off the pipe. This is what is going to happen, people will stop cause they will soon know the cameras are there,, and you'll end up with higher insurance premiums cause you and the car in front of you forgot they where there while you where getting that life altering text message out about your BFF and "bamm" you just wrecked your wallet. The city will not generate the revenue, which they are "projecting" will fill that teenie weenie little budget hole of $1.5 million, we'll be stuck with the tab to pay the company for the cameras, again close to $6,000,000.00 and we will still have a 1.5 million hole which will actually be much higher by the end of the year as since the hole was based on "mystery revenue" . The only "holes" I see in this are the ones in then heads of those who belive that this is a good idea. Hey, I got a novel idea, why dont the police actually write a ticket once in awhile, I often think you need a big sign on your car that says "Hey, Im doin 80 in a 45 zone, give me a ticket".. You can't buy a traffic ticket in this town anymore, its like Daytona speedway. I'm sick and tired of hearing about, cutting police and praying on peoples fear when it comes to the police budget. they have an unlimited revenue stream out here, work for it, thats what we pay you for. Seriously

notofthisearth - 8/29/2012 9:02 AM
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Here we go again, our fine "stewards" of our tax dollars trying to fill holes in their budgets with unicorn pi$$. $4000.00 dollars per camera per month (as of the Arizona companies last published estimate) which will amount to 30 - 42,000 per month per intersection based on that estimate. Lets say an average of 40,000 because you know its going to ultimately cost more anyway, it always does. So 12 intersections x 40,000.00 = $480,000.00 per month, yes per month, or $5,760,000.00 per year. Now the city claims it will fill a $1.5 million dollar hole in the budget for the year, really. I'm no rocket scientist but seems like the city council needs to get off the pipe. This is what is going to happen, people will stop cause they will soon know the cameras are there,, and you'll end up with higher insurance premiums cause you and the car in front of you forgot they where there while you where getting that life altering text message out about your BFF and "bamm" you just wrecked your wallet. The city will not generate the revenue, which they are "projecting" will fill that teenie weenie little budget hole of $1.5 million, we'll be stuck with the tab to pay the company for the cameras, again close to $6,000,000.00 and we will still have a 1.5 million hole which will actually be much higher by the end of the year as since the hole was based on "mystery revenue" . The only "holes" I see in this are the ones in then heads of those who belive that this is a good idea. Hey, I got a novel idea, why dont the police actually write a ticket once in awhile, I often think you need a big sign on your car that says "Hey, Im doin 80 in a 45 zone, give me a ticket".. You can't buy a traffic ticket in this town anymore, its like Daytona speedway. I'm sick and tired of hearing about, cutting police and praying on peoples fear when it comes to the police budget. they have an unlimited revenue stream out here, work for it, thats what we pay you for. Seriously

jcwconsult - 6/6/2012 10:57 AM
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If the Sheriff would insist that ALL the traffic lights had another 1.0 seconds of yellow interval added, the "red light running" problem would virtually disappear. Cities use red light cameras to produce revenue, often at the expense of less safety and higher accident rates at camera intersections. The entire red light camera industry is corrupt and the cameras need to be banned. Enforcement for profit is simply wrong. See the science on our website. James C. Walker, National Motorists Association, www.motorists.org, Ann Arbor, MI

pamelaj - 6/5/2012 5:52 PM
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I think the only people who have an issue with the red light cameras are those that fear being caught by them. If you obey the traffic laws then the cameras should be of no concern to you.

eldon - 6/5/2012 12:32 PM
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There are so many studies that show red light cameras actually increase accidents. The only reason I can see Sheriff Rutherford pushing for these in Jacksonville is to generate revenue. These things are like cash machines for the city. I will remember this come next election, Sheriff. Your days are numbered.

srd275 - 6/5/2012 7:52 AM
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RLC are NOT about safety, their PRIMIARY purpose is CASH! (and outside of the RLC gimmick "halo". Besides a system like HALO can be DONE WITHOUT RLC TOO BY THE WAY!) The approaches that will be pick will be picked for FINANICAL REASONS! GO GET THE BREAKDOWN OF: 1. how many "violations" are right turns. 2. stopping on the stop line 3. split second mistakes. THAT IS WHAT RLC ARE REALLY ABOUT! www.motorists.org www.banthecams.org camerafraud on Facebook

PhotoRadarScam - 6/5/2012 1:17 AM
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If it was about safety, city traffic engineering would be driving this effort and would have conducted traffic engineering studies on each location. An intersection can be designed to make red light runners out of everyone with a high crash rate, and it can be designed for very few violations and crashes. Not to mention they are doing business with Redflex. Just check out FireRedflex.com and see how shady this company is. THIS IS WHO THE CITY GOVERNMENT IS IN BED WITH! Vote them out at the next opportunity. Surely there are more trustworthy companies.

Paul Henry - 6/4/2012 11:28 PM
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Each Florida Sheriff has sworn an oath to support and defend both the Florida and US Constitutions. As a retired Florida officer, I find it a huge problem sending someone a ticket that makes them guilty until they prove their innocence, that denies them the opportunity for due process (there is no hearing available from the camera ticket), and that causes a higher fine and points simply for exercising the right to due process. Then there is the accuracy/error factor and a total lack of discretion among other issues. Most important of all is the fact the existing devices will not prevent crashes involving inattentive or impaired drivers. The high-tech version may do so, but as the other person commented, if we have that technology available, why not use it so we have no crashes? I can't figure out why so many elected officials have compromised their integrity for cash flow, but it is a sad snapshot of our world today.

Albert - 6/4/2012 10:36 PM
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And if it isn't just for revenue, the Sheriff surely won't mind insuring that there is ample signal for drivers indicating when the light is about to change--as opposed to Green Cove Springs and SR 16, where they have turned off the walk light so as to take drivers by surprise when the lights change!
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