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Slowing tourists on Segways

ST. AUGUSTINE, Fla. -- City commissioners are fielding a growing number of complaints regarding the increased number of Segway tours in the nation's oldest city.

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Karl Sagal - 8/28/2013 8:04 PM
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They could find no actual injuries, because there are very few. Bicycles go faster, and cause many more accidents, but they are commonplace. Segways are new and new also means scary. The vice mayor said it herself, she was startled, so now wants to make a law to protect people from the injuries that ARE NOT HAPPENING!. This is a case where people want to make rules to avoid what they imagine, not what is happening. I am all for holding people accountable for what they actually do, not for making it illegal to do something that you do not understand. The segway is just a tool, like a bike or a car. If a driver acts irresponsibly, he is held to account. But all cars are not blamed. If a bicycle rider hits someone, or causes some vice mayor to be startled, and she reacted by trying to make speed limits for all bicycles then it would be fair. But this is not. I have no problem with reasonable rules of conduct on segways, or bicycles, or baby strollers. Hold those who hurt others accountable. But do not make up rules to 'protect' those who have not been hurt. Any honest person who looks into injuries by bikes, or even baby strollers, will find more from them than segways. I am not saying they are all bad, any of these, but while most operators are fine, the very few that are irresponsible need to be held equally accountable. That is, the individual operator, not the entire group.

Karl Sagal - 8/28/2013 9:35 AM
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They could find no actual injuries, because there are very few. Bicycles go faster, and cause many more accidents, but they are commonplace. Segways are new and new also means scary. The vice mayor said it herself, she was startled, so now wants to make a law to protect people from the injuries that ARE NOT HAPPENING!. This is a case where people want to make rules to avoid what they imagine, not what is happening. I am all for holding people accountable for what they actually do, not for making it illegal to do something that you do not understand. The segway is just a tool, like a bike or a car. If a driver acts irresponsibly, he is held to account. But all cars are not blamed. If a bicycle rider hits someone, or causes some vice mayor to be startled, and she reacted by trying to make speed limits for all bicycles then it would be fair. But this is not. I have no problem with reasonable rules of conduct on segways, or bicycles, or baby strollers. Hold those who hurt others accountable. But do not make up rules to 'protect' those who have not been hurt. Any honest person who looks into injuries by bikes, or even baby strollers, will find more from them than segways. I am not saying they are all bad, any of these, but while most operators are fine, the very few that are irresponsible need to be held equally accountable. That is, the individual operator, not the entire group.

steseaq - 8/28/2013 8:52 AM
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- While not condoning the use of segways in an illegal manner I would be very interested in if a similar study was done on the use of bicycles. How many pedestrians have been injured by bikes and what is the posted speed limit for cyclists?

Jim McClain - 8/28/2013 5:39 AM
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I don't know the actual laws in FL or St. Augustine, but many states regard Segways as pedestrians. Therefore, they are allowed on sidewalks, should glide toward oncoming traffic when on streets and in all other ways abide by pedestrian traffic laws. The exception is, a Segway must give the right-of-way to walking traffic and any handicap mobility aid. The top speed Segs are capable of is no faster than many humans can run. Although responsible behavior dictates one should glide no faster than walking traffic, there may be times it is safe to glide a bit faster, just as it is considered acceptable for pedestrians to run on a sidewalk. I'm not opposed to reasonable regulation for safety's sake, but those considering the new regulations should also take into account the actual damages and injuries caused by Segways on the local streets. Maybe all that's needed is the threat of loss of permit to operate tours, if tour operators can't manage their customers and show respect and consideration to other occupants of the tour's terrain. Just my opinion.

Truthseeker - 8/22/2013 4:49 AM
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This "study" shouldn't cost the taxpayers over 10 or 15 million dollars.
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