Homeowner at odds with HOA over American flag

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Updated: 2/08 9:56 pm
JACKSONVILLE, Fla.-- Larry Murphree is fed up. He says every time he turns around, his homeowner's association is breathing down his neck.

"It's gotten out of hand. It's got to stop," he said.

In an effort to show patriotism, Murphree put an American flag in his flower pot. Shortly after he did, he was served papers and ordered to pay $100 a day until he takes it out.

"I don't think anybody else could tell me you can't support your country by putting a flag out," he continued.

This isn't the first run-in Murphree's had a run-in. Back in December, he and his neighbors were confronted about their Christmas lights. To make sure they win this battle, Murphree hired an attorney.

The plan is to file a lawsuit Thursday against the HOA. 

"We understand wanting to keep the home values, but when you get down to saying an unauthorized object like a flag is destroying the value of someone's property, who would want to live in that neighborhood?" attorney Gust Sarris asked.

The HOA told us the problem isn't with the flag itself, but where it's located. Under condominium guidelines-- no unauthorized object can be located in a common area. They say Murphree's flag falls under that category.

As for him, he say he has the right to display his flag under state and federal law-- and won't give up until that's proven. 

"I won't be able to use the clubhouse, the tennis courts or swimming pool until I give them a 1,000 or take the flag down. Not going to do it," he said. 

Larry's neighbors have rallied around him and even contributed to a "legal fund." So far, he's up to $21.99.
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zgbqzkf - 3/2/2012 11:16 PM
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I am an owner/operator of a lawn maintenance business, and have one of my customers in this community. We have had several discussions about how restrictive and absurd this HOA's bylaws are (...they threatened to fine her because of the type of vertical blinds she was using INSIDE of her home! ...how ridiculous!). Anyway, I think that out of all the people in this awesome country of ours, active servicemen and veterans have the most right of all to fly ol' glory, no matter where they live. Anyone who steps up to serve our country and sacrifice in the way that they do deserves all the respect and recognition that we can give them. And to tell him he can't display an American flag, and then to try to fine him because of it ...well... them's fightin' words!!!

MikeR - 2/10/2012 4:42 PM
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This is NOT about flags. This is about a collection of morons (association board) being led by the Association attorney to increase his billable hours...period. I bet the association elections have been rigged for years to allow these morons to continue to pump our equity into the attorneys pockets. Improve our property values? That is the biggest joke of all!

moderate one - 2/10/2012 3:37 PM
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nativejax: How sad and unhappy a person you must be. I do hope you are watching your health and blood pressure. That much hatred is very bad for you as well as anyone who knows you or must be around you.

Lottojax - 2/10/2012 2:24 PM
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The US is a great country and all the foreigners coming here for a better way of life indicates they feel it is great also! So why do you ignorant people complain constantly about the US? Why don't you enjoy this great country, try to get along with others (like it says to do in your Bible), and get a life. Stop sitting at home watching that right wing Fox News and worrying about every little thing. You're going to die some time anyhow. Enjoy your life while you can. Don't waste time and energy complaining because a HOA won't let you fly a flag! If you are so unhappy with your politicians and judges and everyone else you can think of, why don't you take a slow boat to China or Cuba or Iran--somewhere where they will kill you for making these type anti-government statements! I love the US and don't have to fly a flag to show it. Or, if the HOAs bother you so much, find you a house in the country where you can still put your washing machine on the front porch and have your hunting dogs underneath it. Then, you could proudly display your Rebel flag. Enjoy your life while you can!

nativejax - 2/9/2012 11:49 PM
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I also want to point that after 911 there were FLAGS flying everywhere. EVEN IN THESE HOA RULED COMMUNITIES. Why didn't they threaten the home owners then? FLAGS flew for months...it wasn't an issue then, why now?

murphette88 - 2/9/2012 5:34 PM
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Native Jax. You are so full of it. All you do is hate, and judge. YOU are the kind of person that make this country unbearable. And do not bring homosexuality into this. Do you know how many homosexuals fight in these wars for you and all you do is bash them. You are an ungrateful, hating,judging. Who made you into such a negative person?

Grandmother - 2/9/2012 3:01 PM
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Lotto jax, your comment is insulting and not pertinent. Issue is simple: 1: condo owners are allowed one flower pot outside front door. Larry has 1 flower pot 2: state law allows HOA residents to fly American flag ( guidelines as to ht are allowed to be enforced) 3: Larry put a miniature flag in his one allowed flower pot. Where is the issue in this? Unless it is a personal vendetta against Larry for decorating his car at Xmas. Larry has not been at odds w/ HOA...he does so much volunteer work ... making it a better place. He has led our singles group for 2 yrs. now. A lot of his time goes into this.

MilitaryMan - 2/9/2012 12:44 PM
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Ever notice that HOA's are ALWAYS at "odds" with some residents about the most trivial of things. HOA's serve ABSOLUTELY NO PURPOSE other than to dictate to residents as to what they had better do and what they had better NOT do. I had the misfortune of residing in a HOA ruled neighborhood in Orange Park. It was the most awful place I had ever resided. NEVER AGAIN will I have a home in a place where the HOA rules me by telling me I can't raise the flag, what color roofing tile I must have, that I can't display a gargoyle on the eave of my home, and the list of MUST DOs go on and on. Some time back, a resident in Pasco County was harrassed because his grass was brown. Hey....welcome to Florida; I don't even HAVE grass in my yard. Besides, just WHERE do all those fees go ? ? Talk about "corporate corruption", an HOA should be at the head of the list.

nativejax - 2/9/2012 11:48 AM
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Its people like YOU Lottajax that 'embody' the meaning of the word 'DICTATOR'. You give your MONEY to people like HOA's, Lawyers, politicians, LYING presidents, ETC. to CONDONE and SUPPORT stupid or immoral rules and regulations that EVERYONE has to abide by or they are threatened with imprisonment, fines or forced to leave. If you find the freedoms that the 'American Flag'(Patriotism) represents when someone fly's it so offensive, you deserve to live in those countries where you're personal freedoms and expressions don't exist or arn't allowed. You obviously have never seen your fellow friend or ANY man or woman GIVE UP THEIR VERY LIFE so you can UNDERSTAND the 'LIMITED' freedoms HOA's ETC..FORCE on you, are UNCONSTITUTIONAL, not the flag. Why ANYBODY would live in this type of community is beyond me...but for them to enforce THIS ONE PROVES a 'boycot' of the HOS's across America is long over due. How you can sit on you 'better than me' statements and compare MY AMERICAN flag to ME being a 'red neck', SHOWS me some people living in this country DON'T deserve defending. You need to stand in line with the rest with the places of the world's SHEEPLE, you idolize so much and defend, who hate America, if you find this countries flag as some dirty redneck rag. The HOS's, etc, who are only in it FOR THE MONEY will miss you,I know I won't.

taxi69 - 2/9/2012 9:47 AM
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HOAs like to be dictators. There are rules that must be followed, but attacking the American Flag, really?
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