State Attorney Harry Shorstein, the man who helped put Josh Phillips behind bars, testified for the defense Tuesday.
Shorstein talked about his decision to charge Phillips with first-degree murder in the death of 8-year-old Maddie Clifton and the changes he would make if he had this case today.
Phillips, now 33, sat quietly while listening to day two of testimony in his resentencing.
Phillips' case is getting a second look after a U.S. Supreme Court ruling that says mandatory juvenile life sentences without parole are unconstitutional.
Phillips was found guilty of murdering Maddie in 1998. He’s been in prison for the last 19 years.
The first two witnesses in Tuesday's hearing worked for the Florida Department of Corrections. They testified that Phillips had a clean prison record with only four minor violations.
Phillips has completed several certificates. He’s a law clerk and tutors inmates in math and science.
Shorstein, who was the lead prosecutor in the 1998 case, talked about the case and what he would do differently today.
Prosecuting attorney Bernie De La Rionda reminded Shorstein of the arguments he used in the original trial.
“She was still alive when he put her under the bed, then he took her out and stabbed her, you said this in your closing, correct?" he said.
Shorstein acknowledged his arguments in the trial 19 years ago, but said he is questioning juvenile culpability, and how developed Phillips was at 14 years old.
Shorstein also said he might give more weight to charging Phillips with second-degree murder, which means the judge would not have been required to sentence Phillips to life in prison.
A juvenile advocate said she does not believe Phillips should die in prison.
Day two of the #JoshPhillips resentencing will begin soon @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
First witness today: Todd Mitchell a classification officer @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Mitchell is responsible for monitoring progress of inmates, Has had Phillips for the last 2 years, he access to his records. @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Summary of disciplinary records, 4 violations since Phillips has been in prison @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
The 4 are minor, missing count, and 1 hygiene violation. @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Mitchell going over awards Phillips has received while incarcerated. @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Mitchell going over awards Phillips has received while incarcerated. @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Mitchell says Phillips has adjusted in prison, calls tutoring his job. @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Mitchell is responsible for hundreds of inmates. @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Defense "Would you agree he is better than most of your inmates?"
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Mitchell "Most, yes." @ActionNewsJax
State asking if Mitchell is advocating to be released from prison. Defense objects. @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Mitchell explains pornography no longer allowed in prison b/c the State believes it is not "beneficial" to the inmate. @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
2006 State says Phillips had pornographic material in prison. @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Laura Bedard Chief of corrections and services Seminole County Corrections next witness @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Phillips tutored Math and Science @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Some of the programs Phillips participated in are not usually for "lifers" Bedard said Phillips was persistent to get in. @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Bedard: "His prison record looks pretty darn good for how much time he has done." @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Next witness Paul Pinkhan a former Florida Times Union reporter he is now an investigator for federal defenders office @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Pinkham interviewed Phillips in 2008
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Purpose of the interview was to see where Josh was at that time, interview was done at prison in Bowling Green, FL @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Phillips would not talk about facts of the crime with Pinkham. @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Asked if he thought about Maddie, Phillips said all the time, and he was remorseful. @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Phillips told Pinkham seeing older inmates made him think "that will be me one day." @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Pinkham says Cliftons case was one of the most infamous. @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Phillips told Pinkham in 2008, he doesn't know if he deserves to get out. @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Next witness Former State Attorney Harry Shorstein. State objects to him being at witness, it is overruled . @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Shorstein says he made is a personal practice to try big cases. @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Shorstein prosecuted this case originally, today he is a defense witness. @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Shorstein "Juvenile justice was my #1 priority." @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Shorstein "The criminal justice system has failed... emphasis always on adult crime..most important thing we can address is juvenile crime."
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Shorstein says now he would charge Phillips with something other than 1st degree murder. @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Shorstein is talking about juvenile culpability @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Shorstein My memory was if we indicted him and he was convicted, the trial judge had no possibility to give him anything other than life
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
If Shorstein had indicted on 2nd degree, judge would have had option to charge up to life Shorstein said it was a discussed @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Shorstein says because of the information on Juvenile development, he would give more weight to a 2nd degree charge. @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
State "She was still alive when he put her under the bed, then he took her out and stabbed her, you said this in your closing correct?"
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
The original trial lasted about a day. it was an "open and shut case." @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Malissa Wood next witness @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Wood specializes in reentry programs @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Wood "If he were released question of where would Phillips go?" @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
Wood talks about transition homes, getting a job. @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
"If you are asking if he should die in prison, I am saying no." @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
State cites Miller, says there are cases that juveniles should be sentenced to life. @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
State says they anticipate finishing on Thursday, @ActionNewsJax
— Bridgette Matter (@bridgetteANjax) August 8, 2017
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